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Post by musicalmafia on Mar 12, 2011 10:41:21 GMT -5
I did some research here. Here's what I have come up with. Friendly Neighbor is a role it is unknown if it is a town role or a mafia role and if Wave did use it was most likely used on Fatal I'm guessing. It would provide some good spin for it being a mafia role.
Here's the definition:
Friendly Neighbor - During the day, you can make someone your friend. That player will be told your alignment.
Then here's the info on Happy Jack.
According to some sources, Townshend reported the song is about a man who slept on the beach near where Townshend vacationed as a child. Children on the beach would laugh at the man and once buried him in the sand. However, the man never seemed to mind and only smiled in response.
The last paragraph there seems a little weird and I'm thinking that he may not be town. Doesn't seem to mafiaish though maybe abused or slightly insane. Unless Milk made him a revenge kind of guy and he can kill children.
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Post by darkrain667 on Mar 12, 2011 12:25:27 GMT -5
Im not entirely certain what to think at this point.. Many valid points to think of, but none of it is entirely scummy to me. If anything Wave would seem to be the most scummy, but then again I cant say. Its quite confusing. >>
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Post by JesusSilencio on Mar 12, 2011 13:34:50 GMT -5
I did some research here. Here's what I have come up with. Friendly Neighbor is a role it is unknown if it is a town role or a mafia role and if Wave did use it was most likely used on Fatal I'm guessing. It would provide some good spin for it being a mafia role. Here's the definition: Friendly Neighbor - During the day, you can make someone your friend. That player will be told your alignment. Then here's the info on Happy Jack. According to some sources, Townshend reported the song is about a man who slept on the beach near where Townshend vacationed as a child. Children on the beach would laugh at the man and once buried him in the sand. However, the man never seemed to mind and only smiled in response. The last paragraph there seems a little weird and I'm thinking that he may not be town. Doesn't seem to mafiaish though maybe abused or slightly insane. Unless Milk made him a revenge kind of guy and he can kill children. If he actually had the Friendly Neighbor role, then he's town (the ability doesn't make sense on scum). The thing is, the role would be easy enough to fake (he could just claim to use it on whoever the mafia NK). That paragraph could sorta go either way. I'd say, just based on that paragraph, that it sounds more likely to be a town role, but it's ambiguous enough that I wouldn't rule out him being anti town either. Im not entirely certain what to think at this point.. Many valid points to think of, but none of it is entirely scummy to me. If anything Wave would seem to be the most scummy, but then again I cant say. Its quite confusing. >> You're kinda fencesitting here. What parts do you think are valid? |
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Post by darkrain667 on Mar 12, 2011 14:20:13 GMT -5
I particularly find the evidence and what has been said towards Smap and JR is quite compelling, but I also find it quite compelling for Jesus to be pointing all this out.. I mean it is a way to get evidence out but nearly a page pointing out flaws in everyone is quite a large amount of work in my opinion. Not saying he is cum, just alot of work to expose some people.
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Post by JesusSilencio on Mar 12, 2011 15:05:49 GMT -5
 But if I understand you right, you're saying that scum hunting is scummy... which couldn't be farther from the truth. It's much easier for scum to hang back and make soft stances on people, because, for example, if Wave is lynched and he flips town, I'm going to look worse. I don't think that Wave is going to flip town though, which is why I'm voting for him. I could understand if you thought that my case was bad or invalid. Making a bad case can be scummy, because although scum are going to try to act like town (and therefore make cases on people), they won't care as much about being right (in fact, they know they are wrong), and might not evaluate things as thoroughly. But you seem to think that the case is (at least mostly) valid. I'm also doing the work because someone needs to do it. If I didn't, we would continue lynching inactives (and the scum would probably win unless they're all inactive).
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Post by musicalmafia on Mar 12, 2011 16:43:43 GMT -5
But if I understand you right, you're saying that scum hunting is scummy... which couldn't be farther from the truth. It's much easier for scum to hang back and make soft stances on people, because, for example, if Wave is lynched and he flips town, I'm going to look worse. I don't think that Wave is going to flip town though, which is why I'm voting for him. I could understand if you thought that my case was bad or invalid. Making a bad case can be scummy, because although scum are going to try to act like town (and therefore make cases on people), they won't care as much about being right (in fact, they know they are wrong), and might not evaluate things as thoroughly. But you seem to think that the case is (at least mostly) valid. I'm also doing the work because someone needs to do it. If I didn't, we would continue lynching inactives (and the scum would probably win unless they're all inactive). Hahaha I laughed too Jesus. Anyway it isn't that your case has bad info I mean I agree on your points but I just feel there is too much WIFOM and there's just not enough evidence to lynch him I feel either. I mean the best way here is of course maybe not lynching inactives but let's just look at the whole picture here. We got a lot of I'm not to sure if their inactive or just rather lurking and the only way you can decide this is to look at the posts in the rest of the site. Per say Gary and SMAP have been posting in the site itself but not really that much in the thread. I know 100% that DarkRain did not make the kill last night for I would have killed him. Now that doesn't mean he's not mafia but this may be a good way to elimnate on how to find out who the mafia are. So let's just say Wave is on the fence between town and mafia and for today Dark could possibly mafia. Jesus is leaning town this game but then again he's so good he could be mafia and I wouldn't know. I think Gary or SMAP could be a good lead but I'm not sure especially with Joe's uncertainty on voting but I'm assuming that's a noob thing. I'm still rather amazed that this is Day 4 and there is no information on mafia. Anyone care for a softclaim to tell who they have targeted each night? |
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Post by musicalmafia on Mar 12, 2011 16:45:18 GMT -5
Meant to say town there.
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Post by JoeSaintsFan on Mar 12, 2011 18:38:23 GMT -5
But if I understand you right, you're saying that scum hunting is scummy... which couldn't be farther from the truth. It's much easier for scum to hang back and make soft stances on people, because, for example, if Wave is lynched and he flips town, I'm going to look worse. I don't think that Wave is going to flip town though, which is why I'm voting for him. I could understand if you thought that my case was bad or invalid. Making a bad case can be scummy, because although scum are going to try to act like town (and therefore make cases on people), they won't care as much about being right (in fact, they know they are wrong), and might not evaluate things as thoroughly. But you seem to think that the case is (at least mostly) valid. I'm also doing the work because someone needs to do it. If I didn't, we would continue lynching inactives (and the scum would probably win unless they're all inactive). Hahaha I laughed too Jesus. Anyway it isn't that your case has bad info I mean I agree on your points but I just feel there is too much WIFOM and there's just not enough evidence to lynch him I feel either. I mean the best way here is of course maybe not lynching inactives but let's just look at the whole picture here. We got a lot of I'm not to sure if their inactive or just rather lurking and the only way you can decide this is to look at the posts in the rest of the site. Per say Gary and SMAP have been posting in the site itself but not really that much in the thread. I know 100% that DarkRain did not make the kill last night for I would have killed him. Now that doesn't mean he's not mafia but this may be a good way to elimnate on how to find out who the mafia are. So let's just say Wave is on the fence between town and mafia and for today Dark could possibly mafia. Jesus is leaning town this game but then again he's so good he could be mafia and I wouldn't know. I think Gary or SMAP could be a good lead but I'm not sure especially with Joe's uncertainty on voting but I'm assuming that's a noob thing. I'm still rather amazed that this is Day 4 and there is no information on mafia. Anyone care for a softclaim to tell who they have targeted each night? Another thing we could do is look at the dead's softclaims and see if they match up with their role. |
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Post by JoeSaintsFan on Mar 12, 2011 18:51:15 GMT -5
It is now twilight. I will do the write-up when I get back from school. Twilight. Usually when it's in a game there is a pardoner around. |
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Post by SMAP on Mar 12, 2011 19:22:59 GMT -5
Jesus, as much as I appreciate what you're doing I gotta support Wave a moment.
I got a PM a while back saying he's town. Although that's not really concrete evidence, as he could be a lying messenger, but I trust it.
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Post by darkrain667 on Mar 12, 2011 21:45:24 GMT -5
Rofl at the "cum" thing >< Yes, He certainly is cum. And I agree with the points you brought up, and yeah I guess the work has to be done or we are going to get nowhere >< I still just dont find the evidence pointing all in towards scumism. There is the possibility, but I dont particularly think Wave is scum.
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Post by JoeSaintsFan on Mar 13, 2011 11:25:12 GMT -5
So........
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Post by Wave57 on Mar 13, 2011 15:50:13 GMT -5
Sorry I haven't been posting, doing backstage work for my High School's Musical.
My Defense: I can change my mind.
I used my friendly shot on Smap.
Thanks for the post analysis, should improve my game a tad, interesting to see my godly posting style.
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Post by Wave57 on Mar 13, 2011 17:52:53 GMT -5
Also that was quite the beautiful OMGUS vote there Jesus.
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Post by Yolomeister G-izzle on Mar 13, 2011 18:19:02 GMT -5
dur
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