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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 5, 2011 20:01:20 GMT -5
I say no because music should come from emotion, not something that was written by someone else. Now the person should be experienced and know what they are doing, but music theory and chords aren't need. But ACCORDING to my mother I need to know chords to actually be good at guitar and be able to play it.
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Post by civplayah on Dec 5, 2011 20:03:45 GMT -5
Is theory necessary? No. Is theory very important? Yes.
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 5, 2011 20:04:57 GMT -5
Is theory necessary? No. Is theory very important? Yes. That's your opinion. But mine is far different. I just won't go there because when I express my opinion I look like an ass. |
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:06:02 GMT -5
Yes. Chords are ESPECIALLY needed to a decent guitarist at all. Theory is important to. Very important. If you don't know chords for one thing you are not experienced, and you don't have much experience if you don't no theory either. Theory isn't "something written by someone else," that statement right there shows you know nothing about music theory. Theory is the science behind how music works. People who know theory are the people who become the truly great musicians with a few exceptions here and there. I'd recommend theory to anyone who wants to learn music, and if you can't play chords you are not a guitarist, so absolutely learn them.
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 5, 2011 20:08:54 GMT -5
Yes. Chords are ESPECIALLY needed to a decent guitarist at all. Theory is important to. Very important. If you don't know chords for one thing you are not experienced, and you don't have much experience if you don't no theory either. Theory isn't "something written by someone else," that statement right there shows you know nothing about music theory. Theory is the science behind how music works. People who know theory are the people who become the truly great musicians with a few exceptions here and there. I'd recommend theory to anyone who wants to learn music, and if you can't play chords you are not a guitarist, so absolutely learn them. You know, how is theory created? By a person that is supposedly "smart" to be honest, I could give two shits about chords. Chords aren't important. You could learn by listening to music and examining the sound and experimenting. Music should come from emotion not theory. Either way, I am a guitarist. Sure I don't know very many chords. But are they really that needed? No. If this goes on i'll make an ass of myself i'm sure. |
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Post by civplayah on Dec 5, 2011 20:12:19 GMT -5
Yes. Chords are ESPECIALLY needed to a decent guitarist at all. Theory is important to. Very important. If you don't know chords for one thing you are not experienced, and you don't have much experience if you don't no theory either. Theory isn't "something written by someone else," that statement right there shows you know nothing about music theory. Theory is the science behind how music works. People who know theory are the people who become the truly great musicians with a few exceptions here and there. I'd recommend theory to anyone who wants to learn music, and if you can't play chords you are not a guitarist, so absolutely learn them. You know, how is theory created? By a person that is supposedly "smart" to be honest, I could give two shits about chords. Chords aren't important. You could learn by listening to music and examining the sound and experimenting. Music should come from emotion not theory. Either way, I am a guitarist. Sure I don't know very many chords. But are they really that needed? No. If this goes on i'll make an ass of myself i'm sure. Well, theory isn't really created. Music theory is the study of melody, harmony, rhythm, and dynamics. The main part of compositional theory is learning about chords and their functions (i.e. tonic, subdominant) and also their qualities (i.e. perfect, augmented). If you learn more about chords you can branch out and learn to write better music. |
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Post by Crash on Dec 5, 2011 20:12:37 GMT -5
Yes. Chords are ESPECIALLY needed to a decent guitarist at all. Theory is important to. Very important. If you don't know chords for one thing you are not experienced, and you don't have much experience if you don't no theory either. Theory isn't "something written by someone else," that statement right there shows you know nothing about music theory. Theory is the science behind how music works. People who know theory are the people who become the truly great musicians with a few exceptions here and there. I'd recommend theory to anyone who wants to learn music, and if you can't play chords you are not a guitarist, so absolutely learn them. So, if I barely had a concept of good melody, but knowing chords and theory makes me a good guitarist? Even if my "grasp of melody" sounded like absolute shit? |
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Post by civplayah on Dec 5, 2011 20:13:27 GMT -5
If you know chords then you should be able to do a figured bass along the melody. Or a French figured bass. Chords are the foundation.
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:14:17 GMT -5
And theory evokes no emotion? You are just showing your ignorance right now. Because a person knows theory that can evoke their music all the better. If you don't know theory you are going to know nothing about putting music together, and you severely limit yourself. A few people become good musicians without actively studying theory, but they are few and far between. And chords? Chords are EXTREMELY important. They are one of the most important, if not the most important thing a guitarist should know. They are the backbone of music. They are you rhythm, your progressions, if you don't know chords you are not a guitarist. Picking up a guitar and playing a few notes does not make you a musician. Randomly playing things that don't fit together is not anyway of showing emotion while playing.
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:15:33 GMT -5
So, if I barely had a concept of good melody, but knowing chords and theory makes me a good guitarist? Even if my "grasp of melody" sounded like absolute shit? Chords are what make your progression. They are the foundation. You build upon that by adding melody. |
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Post by Crash on Dec 5, 2011 20:17:51 GMT -5
And theory evokes no emotion? You are just showing your ignorance right now. Because a person knows theory that can evoke their music all the better. If you don't know theory you are going to know nothing about putting music together, and you severely limit yourself. A few people become good musicians without actively studying theory, but they are few and far between. And chords? Chords are EXTREMELY important. They are one of the most important, if not the most important thing a guitarist should know. They are the backbone of music. They are you rhythm, your progressions, if you don't know chords you are not a guitarist. Picking up a guitar and playing a few notes does not make you a musician. Randomly playing things that don't fit together is not anyway of showing emotion while playing. I hope you realize that being a good musician is about adapting your own style, not learning about chords and theory. >And theory evokes no emotion? You are just showing your ignorance right now. I never said that. You can, but if you fail to, then you're shit. And you don't need to study theory to do that. But hey, why don't I just give up? I'm apparently shit since I don't focus on theory all the time. So I should just give up. |
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Post by civplayah on Dec 5, 2011 20:18:44 GMT -5
How do you create your own style if you have nothing to go off of?
And I honestly don't think you guys know what music theory is, even after we've explained it to you.
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 5, 2011 20:19:15 GMT -5
And theory evokes no emotion? You are just showing your ignorance right now. Because a person knows theory that can evoke their music all the better. If you don't know theory you are going to know nothing about putting music together, and you severely limit yourself. A few people become good musicians without actively studying theory, but they are few and far between. And chords? Chords are EXTREMELY important. They are one of the most important, if not the most important thing a guitarist should know. They are the backbone of music. They are you rhythm, your progressions, if you don't know chords you are not a guitarist. Picking up a guitar and playing a few notes does not make you a musician. Randomly playing things that don't fit together is not anyway of showing emotion while playing. Chords aren't that important. You know what? You're just like the others who are ignorant in music. You don't need chords. You know what? Listen to fucking music, learn from ear, it isn't hard. Chords, are just... how do I explain this? Shit that wastes your time. Believe me. Oh wait, you're just like the others I so you wouldn't understand. |
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Post by civplayah on Dec 5, 2011 20:21:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't say they're a time-waster. Learning chords improves your general understanding of music as well as your ability to reproduce the chord patterns that you analyze. And learning it from ear is just mimicking... it's not playing your own music or your own style at all.
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:23:07 GMT -5
I hope you realize that being a good musician is about adapting your own style, not learning about chords and theory. >And theory evokes no emotion? You are just showing your ignorance right now. I never said that. You can, but if you fail to, then you're shit. And you don't need to study theory to do that. But hey, why don't I just give up? I'm apparently shit since I don't focus on theory all the time. So I should just give up. That was directed at Scarecrow, not you. Like Civ said, if you don't know anything you can't created your own style. You learn from what has been done, and adapt and make your own style from there. And I never said anything about a person being shit if they don't know theory. That's your words, not mine. And any good musician knows chords. They are essential to doing anything in music. |
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