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Post by civplayah on Dec 5, 2011 20:23:56 GMT -5
But you can't learn from ear when you haven't written it yet. Well, that's what learning it from ear means... not writing it down, just mimicking. Of course, by doing this, you gain no understanding of the song or of how to add your own style to it. |
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 5, 2011 20:24:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't say they're a time-waster. Learning chords improves your general understanding of music as well as your ability to reproduce the chord patterns that you analyze. And learning it from ear is just mimicking... it's not playing your own music or your own style at all. And as if chords aren't just "mimicking" which they are. To be honest I listen to music while I play guitar to actually get an idea of what I want to play. But, not making it how they do, making it my own thing. What I meant by that was the "rhythm" you know to actually get an idea of a beat. Not by making your own things, you make your own thing by the way you feel inside. Like I said, experimenting to get the sound you want is the best way to instead of going by music theory. NOT MIMICKING. |
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:25:44 GMT -5
Chords aren't that important. You know what? You're just like the others who are ignorant in music. You don't need chords. You know what? Listen to fucking music, learn from ear, it isn't hard. Chords, are just... how do I explain this? Shit that wastes your time. Believe me. Oh wait, you're just like the others I so you wouldn't understand. Just because you are frustrated because you can't play chords does not make them unimportant. All the music you listen to uses chords. You don't become good right away. It takes practice and time. Oh wait. Then you aren't showing any emotion aren't you? And you cannot learn from ear if you don't know anything about music. Learning from ear is something else that takes lot's and lot's of practice. |
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Post by Yolomeister G-izzle on Dec 5, 2011 20:25:58 GMT -5
Knowing chords is about as important for music as words are for writing. (Well, mabey that's a bit of an exageration, but they're definantally really important)
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Post by Crash on Dec 5, 2011 20:27:05 GMT -5
Also, try pulling off a decent-sounding guitar solo when you have no clue what key it's in. I can understand learning key signature and using is for a foundation way more than chords. But again, I'm apparently a shit guitarist since I don't focus on theory 24/7 to give off some sort of emotion and anything else. |
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Post by Yolomeister G-izzle on Dec 5, 2011 20:27:44 GMT -5
Also, Jesus, you guys don't have to be so agressive. You can discuss this without constant jabs at the other person.
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Post by Crash on Dec 5, 2011 20:27:49 GMT -5
And I never said anything about a person being shit if they don't know theory. That's your words, not mine. And that's why you're implying it. |
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:28:23 GMT -5
And as if chords aren't just "mimicking" which they are. To be honest I listen to music while I play guitar to actually get an idea of what I want to play. But, not making it how they do, making it my own thing. What I meant by that was the "rhythm" you know to actually get an idea of a beat. Not by making your own things, you make your own thing by the way you feel inside. Like I said, experimenting to get the sound you want is the best way to instead of going by music theory. NOT MIMICKING. No one makes their own thing right away. You have to mimic in the beginning. You learn other people's songs. Nothing is wrong with that. You will have no style if you don't know anything and don't bother to learn. You style will be bad, and that's just it because you know nothing about what you are doing. And you chords are your rhythm. The way you feel inside doesn't matter if you don't know anything. You learn first, then you can do your own thing. If not, you will never be a musician, and you won't ever sound good. |
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Post by Crash on Dec 5, 2011 20:28:48 GMT -5
Also, Jesus, you guys don't have to be so agressive. You can discuss this without constant jabs at the other person. I apologize for Soup coming here saying that you're not a guitarist if you don't know chords. |
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:29:16 GMT -5
And that's why you're implying it. I never implied it. I implied not knowing chords makes you a bad guitarist. Your words, not mine. |
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Post by SMAP on Dec 5, 2011 20:29:25 GMT -5
Guys
Soup is right
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Post by civplayah on Dec 5, 2011 20:29:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't say they're a time-waster. Learning chords improves your general understanding of music as well as your ability to reproduce the chord patterns that you analyze. And learning it from ear is just mimicking... it's not playing your own music or your own style at all. And as if chords aren't just "mimicking" which they are. To be honest I listen to music while I play guitar to actually get an idea of what I want to play. But, not making it how they do, making it my own thing. What I meant by that was the "rhythm" you know to actually get an idea of a beat. Not by making your own things, you make your own thing by the way you feel inside. Like I said, experimenting to get the sound you want is the best way to instead of going by music theory. NOT MIMICKING. Chords are not mimicking. You must know how to build a chord before you make one. Let's take a complicated one-- V+7 in the key of C-- for example. You must first decide that you want the root to be a G, which is where the V comes in. Then the quality of the chord is indicated by the +... augmented. But the melody is on an F so you add the F to top to make it a dominant seventh chord. Does this sound like mimicking? Chords are not copied... they are an application of knowledge. |
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:29:49 GMT -5
Knowing chords is about as important for music as words are for writing. (Well, mabey that's a bit of an exageration, but they're definantally really important) It's not an exaggeration in the slightest. |
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Post by Scarecrow on Dec 5, 2011 20:29:50 GMT -5
Chords aren't that important. You know what? You're just like the others who are ignorant in music. You don't need chords. You know what? Listen to fucking music, learn from ear, it isn't hard. Chords, are just... how do I explain this? Shit that wastes your time. Believe me. Oh wait, you're just like the others I so you wouldn't understand. Just because you are frustrated because you can't play chords does not make them unimportant. All the music you listen to uses chords. You don't become good right away. It takes practice and time. Oh wait. Then you aren't showing any emotion aren't you? And you cannot learn from ear if you don't know anything about music. Learning from ear is something else that takes lot's and lot's of practice. Actually, chords are easy as fuck (like I said I know some) I just don't care to know them because I find them useless. They really aren't needed to be a great guitarist. Why not experiment and find a sound that seems good to you and you are fascinated with? And simple thinking "would this riff I just made go with this?" Heck, I made a riff of my own and guess what? At the time I didn't know chords. I've been playing for almost 8 years. I have experience and I've been doing the same thing i'm doing now. And i'm actually doing fine. |
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Post by Soup567 on Dec 5, 2011 20:31:49 GMT -5
SMAP's seal of approval. Right there. ...We need to make that some special smiley... |
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