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Post by Wave57 on Aug 22, 2011 18:07:32 GMT -5
I'd rather that a 30% chance to get a mafia, then not lynch at all.
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Post by civplayah on Aug 22, 2011 18:08:57 GMT -5
It's not 30%, though, it's way less than that. It weakens the town.
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Post by JoeSaintsFan on Aug 22, 2011 18:09:26 GMT -5
To quote yourself, "Where is the Math for that?"
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Post by Wave57 on Aug 22, 2011 18:10:32 GMT -5
Good Points, but you're leaving out some Cons No Mafiats on vote (quite unlikely, but possible) Chance to get Town Power Role Harder to get information Overall giving the player no chance to even play (Of course, that's life, but still) Plus, Zack hasn't even posted to convince you why to vote or not for him. He probably won't even have a chance to help out, as it's been said he's good. What do you mean no mafiats on the vote? If it's a lynch on a townie, there should be at least one mafia. If it is on a mafia I gaurentee one mafia is on there trying to look more town. There is always a chance we lynch a power role/mafiat/townie/sk. But that's it, this is D1, we have to take chances. OR you can just sit back over there and do nothing, that's fine. Harder to get information? Explain. Lots of people don't get a chance to play (be it lynch or night kill) You can't think like that, or we'll get nothing done.
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Post by Yolomeister G-izzle on Aug 22, 2011 18:11:07 GMT -5
Guys, we should atleast wait for him to say something. If he doesn't make any posts at all it doesn't help us in the slightest. A completely random lynch like this wouldn't help us at all.
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Post by JoeSaintsFan on Aug 22, 2011 18:12:13 GMT -5
Good Points, but you're leaving out some Cons No Mafiats on vote (quite unlikely, but possible) Chance to get Town Power Role Harder to get information Overall giving the player no chance to even play (Of course, that's life, but still) Plus, Zack hasn't even posted to convince you why to vote or not for him. He probably won't even have a chance to help out, as it's been said he's good. What do you mean no mafiats on the vote? If it's a lynch on a townie, there should be at least one mafia. If it is on a mafia I gaurentee one mafia is on there trying to look more town. There is always a chance we lynch a power role/mafiat/townie/sk. But that's it, this is D1, we have to take chances. OR you can just sit back over there and do nothing, that's fine. Harder to get information? Explain. Lots of people don't get a chance to play (be it lynch or night kill) You can't think like that, or we'll get nothing done. You never know when it comes to the way mafia think, Wave. They're never the same people at the same time.
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Post by Wave57 on Aug 22, 2011 18:12:33 GMT -5
I just pulled a random number out of my ass, instead of keeping my thumb in there like you guys.
It is much better to have info from a lynch then give the mafia an advantage by getting one free kill N1.
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Post by civplayah on Aug 22, 2011 18:13:02 GMT -5
To quote yourself, "Where is the Math for that?" I believe soup said that, but still, it's applicable. unvote fishy, vote: wave
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Post by civplayah on Aug 22, 2011 18:13:59 GMT -5
It is much better to have info from a lynch then give the mafia an advantage by getting one free kill N1. It's giving them two free kills if we random lynch-- one in the day by random lynch, one in the night.
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Post by Wave57 on Aug 22, 2011 18:14:14 GMT -5
COME AT ME BRO
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Post by Wave57 on Aug 22, 2011 18:17:22 GMT -5
It is much better to have info from a lynch then give the mafia an advantage by getting one free kill N1. It's giving them two free kills if we random lynch-- one in the day by random lynch, one in the night. Let's look at it. SCENARIO 1 Random lynch. Townie was lynched. At least one voter on that list voted for the townie. This is what I call info. Mafia kills townie. We have information to help us lynch a mafia member. SCENARIO 2 Random lynch Mafia was lynched (woo) At least one mafia was in there, to look more town. Mafia kills townie We use information from the previous lynch to hunt scum. Random lynch on D1 (And getting info) is better than having a no-lynch and still be blind D2.
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Post by JoeSaintsFan on Aug 22, 2011 18:18:50 GMT -5
Good Points, but you're leaving out some Cons No Mafiats on vote (quite unlikely, but possible) Chance to get Town Power Role Harder to get information Overall giving the player no chance to even play (Of course, that's life, but still) Plus, Zack hasn't even posted to convince you why to vote or not for him. He probably won't even have a chance to help out, as it's been said he's good. What do you mean no mafiats on the vote? If it's a lynch on a townie, there should be at least one mafia. If it is on a mafia I gaurentee one mafia is on there trying to look more town. There is always a chance we lynch a power role/mafiat/townie/sk. But that's it, this is D1, we have to take chances. OR you can just sit back over there and do nothing, that's fine. Harder to get information? Explain. Lots of people don't get a chance to play (be it lynch or night kill) You can't think like that, or we'll get nothing done. Whoops, forgot to finish. Do you realize how much one mislynch can ruin the Town? And of course you take chances, on any Day. You can't just trust a guy who says he's a Cop and that so-and-so is scum. You never know who you're killing. If you lynch a Cop, there goes your best bet to find Mafia. If you kill a Doctor, that one guy who's got it all figured out could be NK'd the next time. If you kill a freaking VANILLA, that can tilt the favor of the game. And that last one, I already said, it's life, but it's still not fun, and it will happen eventually.
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Post by civplayah on Aug 22, 2011 18:20:43 GMT -5
Random lynch. At least one voter on that list voted for the townie. This is what I call info. If it's random, you don't get any 'info' as the votes are random!
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Post by Wave57 on Aug 22, 2011 18:21:17 GMT -5
Your way of looking at it is pessimistic
Mine is optimistic
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Post by Soup567 on Aug 22, 2011 18:21:44 GMT -5
I don't think Zack has posted since the day he joined.
For day one lynches here, votes are generally more random. We don't normally have that much of a bandwagon. It can be easier for mafia to hid in a bandwagon though. Town vote in them too for either just being lazy or they are just going along with the vote. Now I don't like large bandwagons like that but is there a chance that Zack is mafia? Yes. But day one lynches are normally shots in the dark anyway. More often town than mafia, either way it's better to act then do nothing.
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