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Post by Soup567 on May 27, 2012 11:50:27 GMT -5
That is long... whoa.
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Post by nogatoyumi on May 27, 2012 16:04:06 GMT -5
Best movie ever made = The Human Condition It's long as hell (~9 1/2 hrs) but you'll never notice. Why did I read that as The Human Centipede at first? Anyway, those are pretty great. It's a soul crushing journey, slowly driven from beginning to end. |
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Post by straf on Jun 1, 2012 2:19:00 GMT -5
(Spoilers for movies)
Watched the Big Sleep last night. It's definitely one of the best Bogart films even if the plot's a bit muddled. It wouldn't have been as good if Bogart wasn't playing Marlowe, though. He really sells it. As much as I like Casablanca there's a reason why it's tough for me to watch Bogart be tender since he really sells the tough-guy, zero-shits-given-come-at-me-bro kind of stuff. The ending of the movie really shows what I mean, when he is confronting Eddie Mars. He fucking SELLS IT. It has that cliche "count to three or I shoot", but it's no bullshit. He shoots WHILE he counts, narrating like a lunatic: "THERE'S ONE, EDDIE!", etc. There's a reason why I think he's the best actor I've ever watched. He may have acted in cliche Hollywood movies and he may have never been in a Seven Samurai, but he really made what he worked with his own. Or at least he got into it. I never believed Toshiro Mifune was a samurai doctor, but it's quite possible that Humphrey Bogart was part cynical private eye part gangster. You really have to see it to believe it.
Just finished watching In A Lonely Place. Another Bogart film where he sells the lunacy. Watching this, you really think that this guy's insane. When I think Rat Pack I think cool jazz, chill guys, you know. Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin never lost their cool in their movies or their music. Then you have this outlier. Bogart always seemed to play these mental guys. The worst Sinatra had to be was a heroin addict, which isn't so bad really. And they really down-played in the movie, too. Usually you see heroin addicts as hopeless junkies. It's almost a joke in that movie. But anyway, In A Lonely Place is real dark, you know. Bogart gets his tender moments in the movie, but you never really think of them as tender (which was the intention) because you're always doubting not only his sincerity but his innocence. You know the guy's dynamite, you just don't know when he'll blow. But Christ it was good.
Never mind me. It's 3 AM and I wanted to gush about these movies. Getting pumped for The Third Man and Out Of The Past. Might even do Videodrome later.
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Post by straf on Jun 1, 2012 2:28:21 GMT -5
People say Blade Runner is a good movie but it fucking sucks. Maybe it's where Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep is way better. Hell, compared to this movie it transcends good. If you're going to make a hack-sawed adaptation of something at least leave SOME of the plot in there. More importantly, make it good.
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Post by nogatoyumi on Jun 1, 2012 13:35:29 GMT -5
People say Blade Runner is a good movie but it fucking sucks. Maybe it's where Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep is way better. Hell, compared to this movie it transcends good. If you're going to make a hack-sawed adaptation of something at least leave SOME of the plot in there. More importantly, make it good. Blade Runner is okay for what it is, but so many people call it a "revelation." Whatever.. Anyway, in reply to what you posted before, The Big Sleep is ridiculous. There are lines in it that are too clever and witty to be realistic. The plot is nearly incomprehensible. The characters act like they aren't from this planet, literally. It may be one of the most convoluted movies ever made and I loved every fuckin' second of it. As for In a Lonely Place, Bogart gives one of his best performances in that one. There are some wonderful nuances in the film too, some great scenes and atmosphere, etc. etc. |
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Post by straf on Jun 1, 2012 18:17:36 GMT -5
I've always liked Graham Greene, so when I heard that he wrote a screenplay, naturally I had to watch the movie that was made from it. Basically, the Third Man is really good. Orson Welles makes a good criminal, something you really wouldn't expect if you've only watched Citizen Kane (I've watched more than that, but Kane seems to be the go-to Welles movie for newbies). It's really well-written, not your usual Whodunnit? sort of thing. What really makes the movie good, though, is the music. It's out of place, but at the same time fits so well with the movie. It's almost surreal.
I really wonder why people can't make such good movies anymore. Theoretically, movies should be getting better with all the new technology and what-not (SMAP logic doesn't always work, I guess. That's not a call-out, by the way) to help it along. People seem more concerned with dressing up their movies with CGI and making everything 3D to focus on a good plot. Name me a well-written, well-acted movie from the past 10 years, 'cause I haven't seen one. Way back in the 40's/50's, they didn't have all of this cool stuff. They'd have to make Blade Runner with cardboard and glue.
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Post by SMAP on Jun 1, 2012 19:06:08 GMT -5
That logic was more referring to music anyway, but I totally understand what you mean, despite loving many modern movies and having shitty cinema taste anyway.
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Post by straf on Jun 1, 2012 19:15:06 GMT -5
Liking modern movies doesn't make your taste shitty. There's a couple that I like because I can turn of my brain for an hour or two and just enjoy it (like the Avengers).
Of course, when you compare movies the Avengers looks like shit, but no problem in liking it.
I'm really just thinking "aloud" now.
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Post by Zilla2112 on Jun 1, 2012 19:25:02 GMT -5
Speaking of The Avengers, I saw it today, and it was pretty awesome.
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Post by straf on Jun 1, 2012 20:09:25 GMT -5
Out Of The Past is a bit cliche. Sure, it represents all those noir tropes that we have come to associate with the genre, but it somehow seems less satisfying than something like the Big Sleep. It's still a good movie, but I think that what really turns me away is the fact that at the end, everyone got what they deserved. If it didn't with such a -- uh -- "clean break" I guess, it would have been much better.
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Post by straf on Jun 2, 2012 0:39:32 GMT -5
I'm not sure how I feel about Videodrome. I don't think I even know what happened.
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Post by straf on Jun 2, 2012 17:44:37 GMT -5
Being John Malkovich is fucking weird. I don't even know. How can someone make that shit up? It must be real. >__>
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Post by Zilla2112 on Jun 3, 2012 18:02:15 GMT -5
I got to see Reservoir Dogs, The 40-Year-Old Virgin, and Alien this weekend, and they were all great!
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Post by Soup567 on Jun 3, 2012 19:48:14 GMT -5
Reservoir Dogs is great. Stuck and the Middle With You and that film seem to be synonymous now.
Last couple films I watched were The Birds and Psycho. Catching up on my Hitchcock films. Both were free on Comcast, and Vertigo is too, so I'll have to watch that soon.
Also I don't know if anyone here has seen, but if you haven't it you should try. The movie Oldboy is great, and as brutal as it comes. Ol' Icon recommended it to me a while ago, but he is only periodically on mibbit so I haven't been able to talk to him about it. You kind of want to talk to someone about it after you see it.
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Post by Soup567 on Jun 4, 2012 18:34:35 GMT -5
Raging Bull is real intense. That might be De Niro's best performance.
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